45K Service

It's not exactly 45K service, because I did brake pads and fluid change while back (will post later) - saved a lot of money.
So, all that official Honda did it's oil change for 413 NIS ($111), oil not included.

Oil for this time I gave is Mobil 1 0W-30.

43,139 km | 2Y 10M

30K Service

Time for the periodical service.

This time I was happy to check how Top Car in Netanya works, Honda dealer that sold me my Civic.

I set an appointment one day before to 7:30 in the morning.

But here is a preface to my service :-)

About half a year ago I heard from Honda people that they stopped using original Honda oil and switched to Paz oils (Paz Lubricants and Chemicals). I guess one manager from Honda meet another manager from Paz and they decide to make money drinking coffee at one of Paz roadside retail place :-) I don't want this shit to my car I don't want an oil from their bloody barrel.

So... at 7:00 when all parts stores opens, I called to dealership to ask what oil should I bring with me.

- Me: Hi, I got service at 7:30 for Civic, what oil I need to buy?

- Honda: Hello. What do you mean?

- I don't want Paz oil, I want to bring oil with me. What oil spec is recommended?

- What?

- Yes. So, what oil API spec, SAE?

- No, we use our oil.

- Oh common, bullshit. I can use any approved commercial oil in MY car.

call transferred to warehouse man

- Hi, what oil Honda Civic needs?

- We use 5W-40.

- Cool, what API index? SL, SM, SN?

- What is this?

- (fuck) It's oil standards!

- I don't know. Call me in 1 hour...

Great!

From our last meeting at Honda I remember this: you can use any Honda oil or API SM and above.

5W-30, 5W-40 both ok.

So I bought best Honda oil I found in this time window.

Honda 5W-30, API SN. I know from tests, it performs good. 40 NIS ($10) per 1 u.s. quart.

But I came to Honda already after my time around 8:00 and I should wait until 10:00 if I want service today. We rescheduled to next morning same time.

I drove to work and meanwhile called to Honda support line to ask what the fucking oil I should buy?

- Me: Hello. I gonna to service 30K for my Civic and I want to know which oil to buy, can you help me?

- Honda: Yes, one moment please. You should by Honda oil.

- But there is no more Honda oils in Israel at all dealerships!

- No, you should use only original Honda oils.

- But i try to tell you that Honda not selling Honda oil anymore thus it's impossible to buy or order Honda's oil in dealership at service!

- That's not true. Where are you from?

- Netanya.

- Ok... Wait a second I will call to your garage Top Car...

Facepalm... She gonna talk to them just after I talked to them about oils and they have nothing but Paz oil. (By the way, if you want to know what is Paz oil - good luck, there is no official spec of "Paz Oil" on internet, probably only authorised personal that blend this olive oil know what is it ;-)

- Hey, Alexey, I just talked to Ilan and they use 5W-40.

- But I already bought Honda oil 5W-30, is it ok? Owner's manual says it's ok.

- I don't know, we use 5W-40 oils.

- Ok, I can change it back. But what oil I should by, what standard SM, SN?

- I don't know...

It's so funny. I probably one of few people that care about our cars and we have to fight with their fucking system of "do what we told you to do".

I went back and changed for Liqui Moly as it was second best choice (Valvoline SynPower was but it was on shelf for 2 years). Anyway, I was looking for chance to test this oil as I got some positive responses about it. 190 NIS ($48) for 5 liters.

It's 5W-40 and API SN.

So I bring it next day and everything was cool before...

I asked that I don't need to replace air filter, because I got them and it's 3 min to do that yourself.

And second, I showed them discount coupon I got from them to my postbox :-)

Ilan told that they do not use them, but after I showed that it from their garage - he agreed...

Final receipt is 267 NIS ($68) for:

1. oil filter

2. washer

3. labor

4. they marked here that I used my oil and no need air filter replacement.

A, and they also swapped wheels front-back.

After 30 km I got check tires alert again  :-)

29,970 km | 1Y 10 M

Discount for next service

Got this card somewhere in August. Arrived in my mail box.
Personally signed by Roman. Sweet!

If service will cost 630 NIS ($170) so it cas be good option with 150 NIS ($40) discount.

I will think about visiting them next time.
I saw the wall inside shop whole in awards of best Honda service shop of the year something. From 2007 till 2013. Worth to check :-)

Image from Internets, not related to the garage.

22,800 km | 1Y 4M

15K service

First service I did at Erez Pratiot in Haifa for few reasons: I was there in that day and I don't want to spent a cent for Honda in Netanya, only by emergency maybe.

Labor: 263.38 NIS, almost 0.9 hour by reglament.
Parts:
1. 15400-RBA-F01 Oil filter: 117.8 NIS
2. 94109-14000 Washer: 3.98 NIS
3. 08232-P99G-4LHE - oil Honda HFS 5W-40, 4L: 244.99 NIS

Total: -630 NIS. If you want generic oil from barrel, it should be 580 NIS but I did not recommend it.

They also did general checks of all systems.

And don't forget stamp in car book!

Overall impression - good, but expensive.
I got from Russia:
1. Oil filters 15400-PLM-A01 (made in USA) and 15400-RTA-003 (made in Japan) for $7 each
2. Washers 94109-14000: $0.5

Also, after technician finished work, he passes car to master that also checks oil level. And as I asked do not fill all 4 liters, they added a note in the paper. And said that in Civics they fill to more than maximum level for "some" reason.

We also swapped front and rear tires. While driving from Haifa back home I got warning. So I stopped the car on shoulder and went out to check all 4 tires. Nothing was wrong.

Strange that it detected that not right after change but when I drove about 30 km. Not reliable system as it was on VAG cars, as I think. Reinitialise system and you good to go.

15,191 km | 0Y 11M