Showing posts with label teder. Show all posts
Showing posts with label teder. Show all posts

Wednesday, March 16, 2016

Honda Steering Wheel Stalk Control Adaptor from Teder

This is an adapter from my Civic they local dealers put for aftermarket multimedia units like my prev Blaupunkt New York 830 works with buttons on steering wheel.

Why you need that?
Because on modern cars, all communication done via CAN bus. Same on most late Hondas. All buttons signals going into CAN and most of aftermarket units (Pioneer, Alpine, Clarion, etc) not have CAN module to decode that signals. So you need an adapter.

How it works?
This one works with voltage change. Other units works with resistance change.

These are readings on ORANGE wire that my adapter outputs
Idle (nothing pressed)4.933 V
Volume Down3.946 V
Volume Up3.353 V
Seek Forward2.735 V
Seek Backward2.145 V
Middle (circle button)1.575 V

Label on the unit says:
Teder Audio
Honda Civic
Hardware version 1.00
Software version 1.07
Date 2013-06-04. I got my car 2013-07-04 - close enough.

Let's crack this sucker open!

Main ICs are:

CPU: STI STM32F103C8 - Mainstream Performance line, ARM Cortex-M3 MCU with 64 Kbytes Flash, 72 MHz CPU, motor control, USB and CAN.

CAN: Microchip MCP2551 - MCP2551 is a high-speed CAN transceiver.

Looks like this unit is made here in Israel by www.erm.co.il.





Below are Honda's main connectors.
Big one with power supply and speakers output.

Smaller one that has CAN bus, AUX in and ACC.


Browns are CAN, violet are AUX L+R in with green (GROUND for them).



42,100 km | 2Y 9M

Tuesday, June 30, 2015

Wiper Blades Rubbers Replacement

While I was waiting for technicians fix bluetooth in my Blaupunkt New York 830, I decided to replace wiper rubbers.
2 years is about time to replace. If you find cheaper than original and good quality (just look for proper length) - 1 year is reasonable period to change rubbers.

This is the old rubber insert from rear wiper.
It has little cracks and when I pulled it, the main cleaning part came apart from the rubber base.
Also interesting that on plastic holder you can see it says "450-550 L". Length was 450mm and probably it suitable for upto 550mm but you need to replace metal holders with longer ones.




Here are both: the new rubber on top and the old rubber below it.

If you look for details, you can see also production date that is important, because rubber gets dry by the time and you better get newest when you by and can check it.
You can see 2 digits of year ending 08, 09, etc and dots in between. Each dot represents 1 month.
So, new was produced somewhere after 2012, the photo is cutted.
The old was from 2011-03.



32,500 km | 1Y 11M

Thursday, June 25, 2015

Blaupunkt Service Menu

Got this trick from Teder guys when they checked why Bluetooth module in my New York 830 is not working.

How to enter into service menu?
1. Press Menu on device button (top left).
2. Press Setting icon on screen.
3. Now press DVD and than General icons, repeat this action 5 times.

Here is a short how-to video

And screens you will see.






32,500 km | 1Y 11M

Monday, June 22, 2015

Blaupunkt Failed Bluetooth Module Replacement

As I said before, bluetooth module stop working on mine Blaupunkt New York 830. Firmware upgrade didn't helped.

To check what is the problem, I was need to go to Tel Aviv visit Teder, the company that in charge for Honda, Volvo, Jaguar electronic installs and maintenance/warranty in Israel. Because local dealer can only take apart multimedia system and send to them. I decided that I will go by myself, eventually I go to TLV once a month or so. And we talked with Amikam, man from Teder I've met in Honda's Netanya that came sometimes to fix owner's issues (you need to schedule with garage when he comes).

I went there too early cause I don't like traffic jams that we have towards TLV (aka center) each working day at morning. I was there around 7:30, they opened at 8:30.

We opened a case.

They tried again to fix with firmware upgrade. Exactly the same version that Amikam tried in Netanya. Surprisingly... no luck, no bluetooth working.

And they decided to get unit out and replace bluetooth module.
There is a good practice to take pictures of "working area" in Honda before they start working on it.

Unit is out.

So I waited for about 1 hour and decided to go for my other thing I planned in Tel Aviv.
Just as I left them, I got a call in 2 minutes that unit is ready and everything is working. I came back in 30 minutes and I had no time for installation back, so I told that we gonna connect wire harness and see it working and I will put it back by myself with no rush.

We checked and bluetooth indeed was working now.
This is software info as they installed.

But... as I found later, they damaged volume knob!
I hope you can see scratches. It was like new before repair. I guess it was laid on table on unit's front and moved back and forth...


WHYYYY? Not surprised anymore :-) It's how you service in Israel, Honda doesn't cares...

Later, starting using my phone again via bluetooth, I've found that it not always connected when you start vehicle. When It happens, it shows this screen while in bluetooth menu and does nothing.
XPRAM Downloading Upgrading
I'll try to contact them again or maybe another try for firmware upgrade.

32,000 | 1Y 11M

Sunday, October 20, 2013

Meeting with Honda representatives


The meeting with Honda Israel (Meir) representatives was done. People attended:
1. Me, the Cockroach Fighter
2. Ilan Cohen (אילן כהן) - Top Car Netanya's garage manager (Honda's official dealer and service)
3. Norit Mor (נורית מור) - Meir's customer's service manager
4. Lior Cohen (ליאור כהן) - Meir's Director of Technical Support
5. My friend Grigory. He came from Haifa with new Honda Civic Comfort manual transmission.

Both Norit and Lior are major figures in Meir organization chart that related to customers. This is a slide from Meir conference presentation Feb 2013 that I found in Google, download full preso here.

To make it short, here are bullets I learned from this meeting:
1. Lior said that this installation is bad and they fixed it from now on.
2. Norit said that they did their "homework" about my complain. Still no idea what this means.
3. Parking installation was made by some new technician that was new to the job.
3. Honda will not call new car's owners to fix this incomplete installation, so it's on you guys.
4. Norit and Lior are not sure that cockroaches got into the car from hole in parking sensors cap, so no compensation will be for me. They think sure that cockroaches came into the car with my cloth or open doors.
5. Norit said because it's not installation issue but I suffered from cockroaches, she can offer me first service for free at Honda garage (equals to about 500 ILS for end customer, less for company).
6. Norit said that I should try to find another parking spot.
7. Ilan thought I found only few dead cockroaches that pictured and uploaded to prev post.
8. I asked for compensation of extermination that helped me partially to stop cockroaches around my car and free 3 services for my new Honda. That is a minimum. And we were expecting that Honda will call new owners to bring them to nearest to them garage to seal the hole in plastic. When I expressed my terms, Norit said that she didn't came here for negotiation, if I don't want one free service I will get nothing.
9. Norit mentioned that it is the first case with cockroaches in Honda. For me too :-)
9. Ilan before worked with Alpha Romeos and was specialized in carburetors, that great bold plus for him as professional.

Overall satisfaction from meeting: it was very interesting and positive mostly because of Lior and Ilan. Norit was totally aggressive.

What I did not understand is why did they call meeting if that is not Honda fail as they say and all talk is about 500 ILS and only because I gone through this. If it worth working hours of 4 people? First free service you can ask when you buy a new car if you push on sale agent.

The facts I have:
- For two years on same parking from 3 my cars only Honda was approached by cockroaches.
- I washed my Skoda Fabia every week. At least for an hour back lid was open towards cockroaches place. Never saw roaches or any insects because of that.
- Mazda 3 that I took after I sold Fabia had no cockroaches for 1.5 month on same place.
- Same cockroaches are around all our 2 buildings that mean 24 cars can be approached by them. I will check with neighbours, but as far as I know, no complains were made. Cars parking around my car have no issue except of ants. That I haven't too in Fabia or Mazda.
- No garbage or sewerage located near to my car.
- Dead and life bodies of cockroaches was found mostly in trunk. Limited winners were able to get to dashboard and front seats, doors.
- There is no other way to get into the trunk beside parking sensor hole or air ventilation. Latter was inspected and I found it perfectly closed as it should be by design. Passengers doors are double sealed with rubber and back lid have one rubber around.
- Next to my car I got neighbour that works in Eldan car rental company. He changes his working car about once a month. I will check if he ever experienced this with any of his cars.
- Also I almost the one that park a car backwards, meaning front of the car toward exit, but others that park opposite need to drive first backwards in a morning to get out of parking.

I will continue to bring attention to this accident as I think that's totally Honda's fail. But in other ways.

Update (2013-10-24)
Yesterday Norit made official summary of our meeting and today at 8:57 she scanned it and sent to my email at 9:07 (hours of course not important).

I will disassemble the trunk plastic again just for picturing that plastic one more time but now with a scale to see, may be I'm wrong, may be the hole is just "few millimeters".

Update (2013-10-25)
Got today this paper "from a friend" :-)

From here we see that all multimedia, twitters and parking sensors installations were done in Bet Tet Teder Baam (ב. ט. תדר בע"מ), interesting. I should visit them... I think :-D
Address in Google Maps and Street view. They are registered company on Ministry of Transport page and the even have Google+ :-)


If Honda (Meir) central located in Rishon LeZion where all cars should be prepared... that is 12 km away from that place. So new cars should be transported by auto transport broker to there. Looks expensive.

Ok, that makes sense. On Honda's site them listed as official garage but a little different - Tet Dalet Reish - Maarechet Azaka VeShema (ת.ד.ר – מע' אזעקה ושמע).
I can't find pictures of open garage on GMaps. But Israeli sites do have them. Yes, I see Honda Accord.
Source: ZooMap
Source: http://ymap.ynet.co.il/Navigate.aspx
And that is probably not the only place for installs. If Honda sells about 550 cars per month (September 2013 data) that's roughly 18 cars per day, one garage will not handle it.

5,200 km | 0Y 4M